Trying to make excuses for William because Diana allegedly spoke to him more is a minor distinction when those two major events happened to both Harry and William equally. I do believe however that his childhood and how he suffered does not give him an excuse to act the way he does as an almost 40 year old man. I’m sure Diana needed to do what she did for her own peace of mind and mental health (and the public did have a right to know how shitty the Windsors were to her), but how incredibly damaging and hurtful for those boys. Thats one way of looking at it. The expectations and treatment these boys received not only from within palace walls but also outside of them, was completely different. Completely different. If he was 35 or something? Especially all of this stuff about The Crown, and about Diana’s 1995 BBC interview.We heard, at the time, that Prince William was not happy with his mother for giving the interview. Kate Middleton’s mother, Carole Middleton is reportedly the reason she and Prince William ended up tying the knot. That’s why it’s called “politics.” BRF still can’t stand that a woman who was supposed to be powerless and dance to their tune found a way to gain some leverage for herself. It’s just sad. In general, I think people want to understand how this happens to a person so that they can understand how to help keep other children from turning into rage-filled adults who can’t process emotion properly, like William. Another way would be not how thoughtless she was but how desperate she was. Gailey had read the advance publicity in the newspapers and phoned to tell her it was ‘imperative’, in his view, that she should come to explain things to William, face to face. A 13-year-old putting his hands on and shoving his mother however, is quite something though. The implications of Diana’s revelations seem largely to have passed over the head of the younger Harry, who was then just 11 years old. I think both parents did a major disservice to their children by having their fights via interviews and the media. I sided with Diana, but that interview was a lot (I couldn’t watch it at the time because of secondhand embarrassment – Diana really laid it on and the kohl around her eyes …). If anything, William probably caused it – Kate seemed to be healthy and athletic prior to the wedding. I think the last time he spoke to Diana was a few hours before her accident, and I can’t remember where I heard this, but I think he shouted at her on the phone. After that we became best friends. However you cannot keep using your shitty childhood (even with the one that he had) as an excuse to act like a piece of shit. They’re trying to define what it means to be a man, and they see our culture rewarding men who actively behave badly toward women. Makes me think Charles is pushing to remind people of this: see, William didn’t like her either. Prince William has opened up about the devastating loss he felt when he lost his mother at such a young age. Ultimately William found a Diana opposite in kate and made sure she was willing to accept his behaviour, no matter what, without all the complaining . An unearthed video from Princess Diana's life shows her playful bond with her son Prince William. All of that situation, from both Charles and Diana, was a dumpster fire. He would send faxes to his sons to KP. With this kind of story I always wonder what the goal is. We’ve seen it now with Harry and Meghan. @Missk I completely agree that these boys were abused. William cried watching the interview: Before the 58 minutes ended, William was weeping. His childhood absolutely explains his current behavior – not just his parents marriage dissolving the way it did, but being raised as the “future king” and getting special treatment from the family from day one. Both parents behaved badly when it came to airing their dirty laundry. margin-top: 10px; He’s still an asshole. and LOL of course he’s going to throw George under the bus. Thank you for saying this! He’s cruel. I think that must have felt awful if he did and must be something he has had to live with. Again, that doesn’t take away my sympathy for his childhood. I’m hoping with Kate and Carol’s influence, these children will be a lot closer to each other than most of those royal families. He was 13 and that would have been mortifying. DIana and Charles mistake was coddling William too much. Prince William and Kate have shared a touching tribute on Mother’s Day, acknowledging a ‘difficult time’ amid the coronavirus pandemic. Prince William got candid about how trauma from his mother's death resurfaced when George was born this link is to an external site that may or may not meet accessibility guidelines. Their homes must have been a cesspool of toxicity with the infidelity, jealousy over popularity, bulimia and finger pointing etc despite trappings of wealth and status. I read too that one of the last times Diana and William talked on the phone they had an argument about — not just her relationship with Dodi — but with her flaunting of it (the photos of her kissing Dodi, etc). I’ve never heard of William shouting at his father for his interview, which preceded Diana’s. } He was a teenager after all. I don’t blame William for reacting the way he did. I am the same age as William and had a bit of a crush on him when we were teenagers. Yeah and her son plays with dead animals and sells nazi marshmallows. I can’t even imagine what it was like for William at boarding school to live through that. Will is already throwing the “spares” under a bus even as children. Always being angry is a cause for alarm. It’s her responsibility to deal with the trauma she alone just put her child through. We don’t know if William always rages, or just shows anger–which can be appropriate or inappropriate depending upon the situation. I think there are a lot of things that are covered up and when it all finally comes out, William isn’t going to look so rosy. We knew, years ago, that William was incredibly mad at his mother about all of it. Princess Charlotte Princess Charlotte in 2019 Born (2015-05-02) 2 May 2015 (age 5) St Mary's Hospital, London, England Full name Charlotte Elizabeth Diana Mountbatten-Windsor [fn 1] House Windsor Father Prince William, Duke of Cambridge Mother Catherine Middleton Royal family of the United Kingdom and the other Commonwealth realms The Queen The Duke of Edinburgh The Prince of Wales The … But William didn’t have the same childhood as Harry. military uniforms…William refusing to behave and Diana saying something to the effect of her and Harry leaving together etc..essentially leaving William alone in the grounds of Highgrove. Not surprising how he turned out. He needs therapy that much is obvious. 13, 2020 In 1993, four years before her tragic death, Princess Diana signed a last will and testament. Both boys had traumatic childhoods but only one seems to have taken serious steps to get help. He needs help because Wills has kids too. William went to the wife who’s the opposite of his mother. I think William resents that part of Diana and is embarrassed by it, because he absolutely sees things from their perspective. Absolutely. } I don’t blame him for being upset – it must have been very hard to have your parents divorce play out as publicly as it did – but that said, this article is interesting because it reads very close to Lacey’s description of the incident, and I also find it interesting that the Mail is being so open about William’s “notorious temper.”. It’s probably too late now. Not just his interview but the tampon phone call. He uses George now to help his image, that’s only going to continue and get worse as time goes on. Why aren’t they mentioning his reaction to the interview Charles did months before? Yeah same. Guilt is a terrible thing to live with. 7 Things Prince Harry and Prince William Inherited from Princess Diana Meghan Jones Updated: Apr. He will investigate allegations of forgery, deceit and a cover-up surrounding the bombshell scoop with Diana. I wouldn’t the throne life either and since aristo didn’t want that we might be right and in the majority. Anyway I don’t blame William for his reported reaction. A 13 year old being embarrassed and angry by his mother is not misogyny. November 21, 2020 admin A young Prince William with his mother, Princess Diana | Tim Graham Photo Library via Getty Images Many of the revelations in the book were so explosive that today people are still combing through tidbits of what she revealed on those tapes. It’s pretty typical teenage behaviour. But it’s OK to have programs about William’s anger at Diana. The fact that Harry got help and William didn’t shows what kind of character each has. Or the Camillagate tape? Diana died in a car accident in Paris just a year later, in August 1997. I am sad for him that his family of origin is so abusive. Otherwise, the public will always “own” you. The 37-year-old prince has clearly come to accept his fate as future King, but that doesn't mean he's forgotten his mother's anguish over the resolutely cold treatment she received from the Palace. He directed his anger at mom because who else was he going to direct it at? We’re all saying we understand a 13 year old boys reaction to his mother doing it. He was going to school with boys who would tease him about this, or even worse, he would know they were talking and laughing behind his back. Carole had no say in George being the only child to get a gift when Attenborough came to call, and the other two not getting anything Awkward. As I keep saying, most of the Princess Diana headlines these days are merely old stories repackaged for a new generation. that she had spoken badly of his father, furious that she had mentioned Hewitt . The Cambridge kids are mostly raised by Kate Carole so while they might have their faults they know how to care and be a close-knit family so for me there IS hope. It can happen to anyone because you don’t know what’s around the corner. But beyond that, the interview also had an extraordinary impact on her elder son, William. But it’s clear he hasn’t. Also Why does he have to smear his brother and SIL in the press? I almost wonder if this story is coming from Charles, as deflection from the negative publicity from The cCrown? The BBC revealed it has chosen former Supreme Court judge Lord Dyson as the head of the investigation. Diana, Princess of Wales (born Diana Frances Spencer; 1 July 1961 – 31 August 1997), was a member of the British royal family. At least it was always described as William was punishing Charles for what happened to his mother. Always raging, which indicates an out-of-control reaction, is not. So at least we have that. ‘Is that really necessary?’ she asked him. Maybe William was mad at both of them, which he has every right to be, but this is spun to make Diana look like the only one spilling secrets. But if he didn’t, why was he so cold to Charles for years? Her protection officer died suddenly a year or two before and she truly believed the royal family had him killed! To be 13 in the midst of roiling puberty is difficult enough, but to have your mother air embarrassing family laundry to the world must have been humiliating beyond reckoning. But to see it was unbelievable. She had to have known how it would affect William because – as you point out – he just went through that same embarrassment of his father’s interview. William is an aristo through and through. We heard, at the time, that Prince William was not happy with his mother for giving the interview. It kind of all makes now. Charles apparently was able to stop the program from being run. "The prince was uncomfortable with the whole thing. Charles and Diana both behaved badly. He had a messed up childhood. Uhm charles gave an interview in 1994 where he admitted to cheating. Hearing that Will apologized and gave her flowers is sad. It’s a shame he wasn’t afforded the help he needed at that tender age. I think he might enjoy punishing Kate because he has mommy issues and sees her as a stand in for Diana. The Prince of Wales is back on track—aristocratic family man and mistresses on the side, as it should be. I personally think that William and Harry both got different facets of Diana’s personality – William got her temper, Harry got her emotional intelligence and short-sightedness – and that affected the way she treated them too. William only care about William. And so he takes it out on Kate. But they struck young teenager William at an especially vulnerable moment. text-align: center; The older I get and now that I have my own child it is just so clear though how messed up the idea of this royal family is. @DS9 – Thanks for stating that the problems could not be all “Diana’s Fault” because the problems were not all “Diana’s Fault”, I am reading The Diana Chronicles now, and I think its important to remember that she literally thought her life was in danger when she gave that interview. I agree. Make sure you never miss a ROYAL story! He’s reliving the whole thing in order to “fix” the ending. Nah. The choice of spouse of each brother is rather telling. He doesn’t get a pass for being a teenager. Also the whole trauma he survived. This is the age when kids are embarrassed by their parents generally, and certainly don’t want to think of them as sexual beings. She was expected to accept her husband’s infidelity like water off a duck’s back. It gives me shivers to think about it! Moreover, there are no reports of Harry raising his voice at his mother, none. Does he not think about his own children and how they would react to his actions? CTRL + SPACE for auto-complete. She was on/off with a lot of people in those last two years, and seemingly off again when she died with them all. Of course he walks around angry he is triggered because it goes back to his being angry about his role in his family, his family, His situation . That’s his version of ‘getting it right’. The Prince pulled himself together to rush back to his room — but when, an hour later, Diana telephoned on the house phone, William refused to take her call. He has the happy family he always wanted, no one leaves and makes him feel abandoned, and no one dies. This to me, this explains part of the reason why he has rage issues. Please watch the footage from the 1986 doc and tell me that is not a misogynist in the making! Bashir allegedly lied to the vulnerable princess to clinch the interview for Panorama, in which she famously said: ‘There were three of us in this marriage.’. Charles would be with Camilla somewhere before and after Diana died. I am curious, if the footage is indeed from when he was 4 years old, where would these ‘serious issues with women’ have arisen from? Harry was groomed to be fall guy. I don’t expect a kid to think about the double standard or the way we regularly give men a pass for things we excoriate women for. He’s mean. William needs to walk the walk before he talks the talk. We don’t know if William raged at Chuck because it isn’t sensational. Prince William. I disagree. Honestly, I have ZERO memory of that one. Prince William and Prince Harry were photographed inside their nursery at Apartments 8 and 9 at Kensington Palace in October 1985. Diana was William’s parent, not the house master. And I too am appalled at the double standard in regards to the reaction to Charles to doing the same thing FIRST. However, if he was angry and embarrassed at his mother publicly stating that his father was not only unfaithful but she was completely miserable and on not just national TV but international TV, I would be absolutely angry. but did Harry go through the same things as William? External anger/hurt, internal anger/hurt. Many men grow out of this to some degree as they gain in maturity, but many do not. At 13 he should have known better and we can definitely hold him accountable. Their brokenness manifests as anger and sadness just like any other broken persons would, but because they’re good people, they turn that anger and sadness inwards, rather than outwards where it can hurt other people. Or maybe William screamed at his mom from a very young age. Prince William has NOT accused his father, Prince Charles, of murder nor is he seizing the throne, despite an absolutely bonkers report. He has to deal with the public reaction of the world to his mom. From what I am gathering from the comments here alone is that Harry was shielded from a lot of the crap both parents put on William. I’m wondering if Diana had lived, if he would had sort of gone back and forth between isolating himself from her and then from Charles, and back again. Diana also admitted to her affair with Captain James Hewitt during the interview and it was watched by 23 million people and sent shockwaves through the Royal Family. Giving that interview was protection. And Child William (also adult William) doesn’t get hurt. The independent investigation will look into concerns Bashir conned Diana into the 1995 interview, with the Duke of Cambridge calling the move ‘a step in the right direction.’. @Imogene/Lanne ITA. The last month or so of her life she and William were supposedly greatly at odds over this issue. 0 comments. Cambridges might be petty but Charles is another level. Diana parentified William, and that was wrong. Not unusual. It’s only us who put the gender roles onto it due to societal conditioning. Still an asshole. Expected to sit, curtsey, smile on command. They’re inculcated with toxic masculinity right at their most vulnerable time. Even more reason for William to get a lot of therapy if he is expected to have a more public role. I remember her hopeful response in an engagement interview when she said, “with Charles by my side, I won’t go wrong…” Only thing was, Charles wasn’t by her side. Obviously it will be glazed over because of the context of the story, but it’s a subtle observation that his temper was already a major problem by that point (and is clearly still a big issue). It isn’t like Chuck did an interview. This time, it’s going to end how he wants. 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